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Shadow of the Beast II on FM-Towns Marty - better than the Amiga version ?
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Air Raid
2005-12-30 05:21:52 UTC
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has anyone here had the oppertunity to play Shadow of the Beast II for
the FM-Towns Marty and compare it to the Amiga version?


I came across this review of the Marty version and got curious.....

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http://www.illusionware.it/marty/beast2.htm

Review

This version of Shadow of the Beast II is very rare and it features
some Marty exclusives that are worth mentioning such as the new intro
(which is nothing to write home about though), some improved graphics,
some interesting cut scenes between levels and the inclusion of spoken
dialogues (in Japanese). Psygnosis did a good job in improving the
cosmetics since this version is probably the best looking one, beating
even the Amiga original. Also, the cutscenes are very well done, with
neat 3D effects and such.



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The Marty/FM Towns port has much better grafx than the Amiga or Sega CD
versions.



On the gameplay side, the programmers tried to improve the game by
lowering the difficulty level, but the game feels nevertheless
unplayable at times, due to the fact that enemies keep reforming
forever and that their attack pattern are completly random and almost
impossible to avoid. Marty Shadow of the Beast II is the ultimate Beast
II port but it is still an average adventure.
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I guess it's very possible since the FM-Towns Marty, released in 1991,
which is based on 1989 hardware (FM-Towns) is capable of 1024 sprites
on-screen at once, about 3 times more than the NEO-GEO -- both systems
should easily be able to outperform the original Amiga 500. -- I
think the FM-Towns Marty is closer in power to an A1200 with AGA
graphics....... and Shadow of the Beast II was designed to run on the
original Amiga hardware, right ?


Interestingly, the FM-Towns Marty version of the *original* Shadow of
the Beast is actually inferior to the Amiga version, as you see in this
review http://www.illusionware.it/marty/beast.htm
Glenn
2005-12-30 13:46:32 UTC
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+ On 30-Dec-05 06:21:52
has anyone here had the oppertunity to play Shadow of the Beast II for
the FM-Towns Marty and compare it to the Amiga version?
Keep your ugly trollface in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy wich is the ONLY group
you posted in where your crap is on topic..
Air Raid
2005-12-30 19:32:11 UTC
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Post by Glenn
+ On 30-Dec-05 06:21:52
has anyone here had the oppertunity to play Shadow of the Beast II for
the FM-Towns Marty and compare it to the Amiga version?
Keep your ugly trollface in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy wich is the ONLY group
you posted in where your crap is on topic..
Thanks for your pleasant, insightful, intelligent response to my
questions......
Angus Manwaring
2005-12-31 10:58:09 UTC
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On 30-Dec-05 13:46:32, Glenn said
Post by Glenn
+ On 30-Dec-05 06:21:52
has anyone here had the oppertunity to play Shadow of the Beast II for
the FM-Towns Marty and compare it to the Amiga version?
Keep your ugly trollface in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy wich is the ONLY group
you posted in where your crap is on topic..
Isn't that a little harsh? :)

I appreciate the importance of Shadow of the Beast for the Amiga market,
but I don't think many people suggest it is a great product in terms of
gameplay, and if somebody is making a comparison between the Amiga and
another version, I'm quite interested. Up to a point. :)

Just my viewpoint, obviously.



All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
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Peteroo
2006-01-01 22:28:29 UTC
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It seems to me that any question about how another version of an Amiga
game compares to the Amiga version is appropriate to C.S.A.G.

Peter
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2006-01-02 23:03:17 UTC
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Post by Glenn
+ On 30-Dec-05 06:21:52
has anyone here had the oppertunity to play Shadow of the Beast II for
the FM-Towns Marty and compare it to the Amiga version?
Keep your ugly trollface in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy wich is the ONLY group
you posted in where your crap is on topic..
hey glenn, ASSHOLE, your post is off-topic, ugly, and unwanted. so
please fuck off.
Sam Smith
2006-01-02 13:48:58 UTC
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Post by Air Raid
I guess it's very possible since the FM-Towns Marty, released in 1991,
which is based on 1989 hardware (FM-Towns) is capable of 1024 sprites
on-screen at once, about 3 times more than the NEO-GEO
It was a very capable machine - I didn't realise that Beast 2 came out for
it though. Interesting snippet from the past.

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Sam
Peteroo
2006-01-04 18:00:06 UTC
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Yup. And Psygnosis for a while ('90-'94) supported it fairly
consistently. Other releases include Infestation, Microcosm and
Scavenger 4. (Yes, Scavenger 4--Novastorm before it became Novastorm.)

Peter
Sam Smith
2006-01-05 15:36:39 UTC
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Post by Peteroo
Yup. And Psygnosis for a while ('90-'94) supported it fairly
consistently. Other releases include Infestation, Microcosm and
Scavenger 4. (Yes, Scavenger 4--Novastorm before it became Novastorm.)
Ahh Microcosm. How many years did Psygnosis spend on that utter pile of Rise
Of The Robots? Perhaps the Towns version got some gameplay?

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Sam
Ryan P.
2006-01-05 20:10:37 UTC
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Post by Sam Smith
Post by Peteroo
Yup. And Psygnosis for a while ('90-'94) supported it fairly
consistently. Other releases include Infestation, Microcosm and
Scavenger 4. (Yes, Scavenger 4--Novastorm before it became Novastorm.)
Ahh Microcosm. How many years did Psygnosis spend on that utter pile of Rise
Of The Robots? Perhaps the Towns version got some gameplay?
I played the demo of Rise of the Robots and was more irritated with
the gameplay than I was impressed with the graphics.

Didn't Psygnosis release Walker? THAT was a fun, mindless game.
Angus Manwaring
2006-01-06 01:05:21 UTC
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On 05-Jan-06 20:10:37, Ryan P. said
Post by Ryan P.
Post by Sam Smith
Post by Peteroo
Yup. And Psygnosis for a while ('90-'94) supported it fairly
consistently. Other releases include Infestation, Microcosm and
Scavenger 4. (Yes, Scavenger 4--Novastorm before it became Novastorm.)
Ahh Microcosm. How many years did Psygnosis spend on that utter pile of
Rise Of The Robots? Perhaps the Towns version got some gameplay?
I played the demo of Rise of the Robots and was more irritated with
the gameplay than I was impressed with the graphics.
Didn't Psygnosis release Walker? THAT was a fun, mindless game.
I'm in a minority, but one of the few half-decent games Psygnosis did
release IMHO, like Lemmings also from DMA.



All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Sam Smith
2006-01-06 10:24:21 UTC
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gameplay than I was impressed with the graphics.
Post by Ryan P.
Didn't Psygnosis release Walker? THAT was a fun, mindless game.
Walker was very cool - but the credit, as usual with Psygnosis stuff, goes
to DMA Design. Sony must have been a bit miffed when, after buying
Psygnosis, they discovered it was DMA they really needed. Probably why they
'disappeared' the company into the faceless Studio London. Lost all it's
magic - and it's well known brand name.

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Sam
Angus Manwaring
2006-01-06 17:44:12 UTC
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On 06-Jan-06 10:24:21, Sam Smith said
Post by Ryan P.
gameplay than I was impressed with the graphics.
Post by Ryan P.
Didn't Psygnosis release Walker? THAT was a fun, mindless game.
Walker was very cool - but the credit, as usual with Psygnosis stuff, goes
to DMA Design. Sony must have been a bit miffed when, after buying
Psygnosis, they discovered it was DMA they really needed. Probably why they
'disappeared' the company into the faceless Studio London. Lost all it's
magic - and it's well known brand name.
I thought, for a while at least, after Psygnosis left the Amiga they
started to get their act together with some pretty decent Playstation
releases, Wipeout and so on.

trying to think of some of their other ones....

erm.... Colony Wars, G-Police ....and erm... Lemmings. :)

All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Bjørnar Bolsøy
2006-01-07 03:16:08 UTC
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Post by Angus Manwaring
I thought, for a while at least, after Psygnosis left the Amiga
they started to get their act together with some pretty decent
Playstation releases, Wipeout and so on.
trying to think of some of their other ones....
erm.... Colony Wars, G-Police ....and erm... Lemmings. :)
Obliterator (1989), Barbarian (1987). Deep Space (1986) and
Terrorpods (1987) are some of my very first reccolections of
Amiga games.

Right up there with Flight Simulator II, Starglider, Marble
Madness, Silent Service, Defender of the Crown, Test Drive
and oh, Hollywood Poker.

This one I liked very much:

http://www.thehouseofgames.net/index.php?t=10&id=110


Regards...

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